tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post2146230930733794683..comments2023-03-24T11:33:00.713-07:00Comments on UNIFOR Local 592, Port Alberni, B.C.: From the PresidentUNIFOR Local 592http://www.blogger.com/profile/11325078369551640127noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-38263896689536709382007-11-16T11:32:00.000-08:002007-11-16T11:32:00.000-08:00I really appreciate all the time and effort that y...I really appreciate all the time and effort that you guys have put into this agreement, I'm sure its been a rough go. <BR/>I also believe that there are other scheduling options, especially if we are 'out of the box'. <BR/>These shifts are unacceptable as far as I am concerned. <BR/>These programed days off are third world. <BR/>I want to VACTION down south in the SPRING , jump into the boat during fishing SEASON or going hunting during openings. If I NEED a day off I want that option.<BR/> Its great to get the old farts out the door so that they can go fishing or golfing every day, its great to make bigger bonuses for the Catalyst head office, but what about us shft workers that are left, what is the cost to us?Quality of life is worth alot<BR/><BR/>I also think that 592 and 686 have to sit down together and work on this agreement together because one without the other is a wasted effort, why hang us out as the sacraficial lamb alone. There would be no point in going against caucus without 686 onboard, as the agreement will be VOID anyhow. We could be stirring things up for no reason. If we can't get an agreement with 686 why even talk to Catalyst. The mill will be going down any how. We have to have the same goals as our BROTHERS at 686. <BR/>I'm sure Catalyst management is just loving all of this, the 'fracturing of solidarity'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-87228422345323509242007-11-16T09:22:00.000-08:002007-11-16T09:22:00.000-08:00I have read , with great interest, the letter circ...I have read , with great interest, the letter circulating around the mill asking 592 Members to vote no on the tentative agreement. First of all, if you have such strong opinions, you should at the very least have the guts to post your name. After all, are you even a menber of this local? And if you do persuade enough people to say No, they are saying: No,I don't want members back to work.<BR/>No,I don't want to see this mill remain viable.<BR/>No,I don't want to work here at all in the future because they will just shut down the other macine.<BR/><BR/>Thats a pretty big request from someone who doesn't even have the fortitude to add his name to the document. <BR/><BR/>What are you afraid of, this is after all,is a democratic Local Union and you can voice your concerns at the Union Hall at any meeting, or are you one of the many that just show up when you are concerned about your pay cheque.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-69804039893717926082007-11-16T07:17:00.000-08:002007-11-16T07:17:00.000-08:00Anonymous said... I'd like to ask pete when he ref...Anonymous said... <BR/>I'd like to ask pete when he refers to negotiating for the benefit of the local as a whole what is in it for a 592 operator with 21 years ? i probably wont have a job at all here any more but to take away my department senority - wheres the cost benifit ? its all about costs please explian where the benifit is ..<BR/><BR/>Thu Nov 15, 05:09:00 PM PST<BR/><BR/><BR/>Anonymous said... <BR/>How much money is saved by implementing these concessions? Let's see some figures!!<BR/><BR/>Thu Nov 15, 05:10:00 PM PST<BR/><BR/>i'll put my name to these questions from out here in montana and from hearing from coworkers this proposal does not take care of all 592 workers not even close like the past agreements like the port alberni solution and others did.seems i have been on the bubble all my career in the mill and always been one to recieve a lay off notice but have been granted the opportunity to work again through deals the past executives have come up with and its seems this one wont do that.i dont know where they want to draw the line so to say but we all have senority and everyone pays the same union dues but seems some get represented better than others ..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-16111857311017772322007-11-15T18:05:00.000-08:002007-11-15T18:05:00.000-08:00First to try and answer Dave's concern, If you can...First to try and answer Dave's concern, If you can find an alternative shift system that will smooth time off with out adding the extra cost of carrying relief to cover for that time off with four crews then lets see it. If you add people and cost then we are sewered before we start. I know it scares the shift guys, I'm one of them.<BR/><BR/>And to the other commenters, you want a reply then please leave your name. <BR/><BR/>PeteUNIFOR Local 592https://www.blogger.com/profile/11325078369551640127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-91116023427913441582007-11-15T17:10:00.000-08:002007-11-15T17:10:00.000-08:00How much money is saved by implementing these conc...How much money is saved by implementing these concessions? Let's see some figures!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-9479988119625947602007-11-15T17:09:00.000-08:002007-11-15T17:09:00.000-08:00I'd like to ask pete when he refers to negotiating...I'd like to ask pete when he refers to negotiating for the benefit of the local as a whole what is in it for a 592 operator with 21 years ? i probably wont have a job at all here any more but to take away my department senority - wheres the cost benifit ? its all about costs please explian where the benifit is ..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-33546392405595503752007-11-15T14:17:00.000-08:002007-11-15T14:17:00.000-08:00I applaud the hard efforts of our wage deligates a...I applaud the hard efforts of our wage deligates and want to support the agreement, but there is a "substantive issue" that scares our tourworkers, other locals and the national. That is "losing the right to choose when you have a day off" in the operations schedule.<BR/>There IS a different alternative to the operations schedule that could be amended with "no addtional cost to the agreement package" and allows the company its desired leave smoothing. I believe most tourworkers would join in and support our deligates then.<BR/>But, Buckhorn and the company are trying pressure and threaten us to accept this "as is" as quickly as possible.<BR/>I believe anger is being misdirected amongst ourselves and at our union while the company "drives a wedge between us".<BR/>I would be sick if we were forced to accept "as is" and then alienate our tourworkers and the rest of the caucus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1025702845098461811.post-32694750162125231352007-11-15T13:57:00.000-08:002007-11-15T13:57:00.000-08:00Keep going Pete. You have the right idea as the at...Keep going Pete. You have the right idea as the aternative is no jobs at all.<BR/><BR/>Signed, shift worker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com